Pure female Succubus too hard

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Pure female Succubus too hard

Postby HohesHaus » Fri May 10, 2013 11:48 pm

First of all, your game is fantastic !

After several rounds I noticed its far more easier to play a incubi than a real succubus. I dont like the penetrarion of men, so I tried to play without it. At the beginning it works but it keeps harder and harder to get to a positiv result.
Ok Riding Cock stacks, but after 2-3 times you have to use Cast Illusion and the Stack is gone. This is very unhandy if you have to cast it barely at the end of the Lust bar, cause you start with 3 Lustpoints of riding cock again, and so you dont get enough mana to continue.
To compare: Using Strapon or a Prick gives you always the maximum amount of lust

Also the upgrading of the Breasts are way to expensiv for what you get. FF Cups give you min Lust +6 for 250 drops + Vaginal Tongues for 110 drops for +2 min Lust and labial tentacles for 180 drops to get +1 thats: 441 drops for +9 min Lust.
A Incubi gets Stallion Prick 180 drops +5 min lust and the benefits of giant balls 130 drops for +2 mind lust and +3 Mana and muscular chest of course 70 drops +3 min lust = 380 drops for +10 mind lust and +3 Mana.


In the end you have to play a female ass raping Succubus or an Incubi.

Solution A: Adjust the prices of breasts
Solution B: Stacking of Cock Riding will not interrupt by Casting Illusion
Solution C: Add Tit-Job as an action with higher Lust if breast are bigger
Solution D: Decrease the horror factor of riding cock (cause its not so horrofying than getting fucked straight up in the ass ^^)
Solution E: Using cock follows the same rules as riding cock

Also:

You added the possibility to corrupt an NPC with the orgasm of the PC. It would be nice if you could decide how many mana points you want to invest into the corruption. I would suggest to link the max. amount of used mana points for corruption to the size of balls or vagina upgrades.


PS:

Vaginal suckers/tongue says in the description "+1/+2 lust increase when used" this is a little bit misleading, cause you expect a new option in the screen. I assume that it gives +1/+2 in riding cocks. The same applies to the gloves. It would be better if the description is "+x lust increase when riding cock/when fisting"
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Re: Pure female Succubus too hard

Postby jackoekaki » Sun May 12, 2013 4:49 am

Hmm, interesting. I definitely think that lesbian succubi are badly screwed at the moment, but hadn't noticed a problem with hetero succubi. I'll weigh it up once I've finished my current work on new characters.

Tit jobs are planned, but it's a fair way off.
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Re: Pure female Succubus too hard

Postby jackoekaki » Sun May 19, 2013 8:44 am

OK, so I've taken a look and I partially agree. Succubus is harder in the early game due to the differences between Ride and Fuck. However, by the time you've gotten to the late game you've got pussy transformations that are giving you lust increase bonuses, and the meters are longer so that stacking effect really gets to stretch its legs. Also, try using lactation instead of cast illusion if you want to get more stacking. If you know you can't get any stacking and you've got the anal tome, offer anal is a good alternative there.

Changes I've made:
- I've tweaked the arousal from Ride so you get more on the initial two actions.
- Relating to what I was saying in the other thread, loosen is OP and I've doubled its mana cost, which makes penetration a little harder to get massive lust out of.
- Tuned muscular chest from +3 minimum lust down to +2 minimum lust.

I'm less convinced about female transformations being overpriced. I want size fetishism to be a diminishing returns thing that you can pursue if you're really into it, but doesn't have overwhelming advantages. FF-cups are a 6th tier thing (stallion cock by comparison is only 5th tier), so they're fairly bad value. F-cups (+5 min lust, 180 drops) are closer to being a real equivalent, but like I've said, they're missing a titjob action currently so they're not yet comparable. Also, you're overlooking the fact that pussy transformations give you a lust bonus every time you use them, which is massively more useful than just raising the minimum lust.
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Re: Pure female Succubus too hard

Postby HohesHaus » Mon May 20, 2013 1:13 am

The changes made it more balanced. Thx
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Re: Pure female Succubus too hard

Postby willpell » Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:50 am

I am currently playing a lesbian succubus, and have opted to use different parts from those which I found effective in my first playthrough as a gender-bent bisexual incubus. It seems as though without using Lactate and the Lube Tentacle, the game is excessively difficult. I have to make most of the Downtown and Oldtown women orgasm twice before they'll even begin to have a chance of being Seduced, and even then it's a Slim or Chancy one; they take four or five Seduces before they'll convert, and it just seems impossible to spin all the plates right so that the Horror doesn't overflow and end the session. Denying myself the ability to Lube up a girl and then Trib her continuously through one orgasm and then close to the second has been not just inconvenient, but downright crippling; while I am admittedly playing with something of a handicap, I still feel as though the game took a quantum leap in difficulty for no terribly visible reason. I don't remember the Suspicious / Resolute girls of my first game needing quite this much finessing before they'd show so much as an Unlikely seduce chance.
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