?'s - Lactate, Trib+pierce, & concubine xformtion

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?'s - Lactate, Trib+pierce, & concubine xformtion

Postby StrangelyCompelling » Sun Jun 23, 2013 9:16 am

1) first, am I calculating something wrong, or is Lactate not worth it? It seems to give +3 horror itself, so instead of -16 horror, you end up with -13 horror for 4 mana, when illusion, cast twice, can give - 14 for 4 mana

I mean, I can see some uses - vs sorceresses who hate illusions, or if the target has only 6 horror when cast [so given that normal he normal +3 horror actions, will result in 5, 4, 3, and then 2 horror], and I suppose, unlike illusion, it has no chance to give +2 lust or -1 lust, as sometimes happens, so it can be a steadier choice it you're trying to edge a target to seduce, but all these are somewhat rare to have troubles with

but of course, its somewhat expensive and exclusive to other upgrades


2) Next, does any needle play, such as labia or clit, effect trib? and on the same note, does the thimble effect every action on the needled area, or just placing it?

3) Lastly, is there any point beyond mental satisfaction for doing a more advanced upgrade for a concubine? It takes the same number of slots and the same bonus whether you get four +1's or one +4, and because you get the lower level one's quicker, you get more benefit [if a +1 takes 2 turns, and a +2 takes 4 turns, for the same overall length of time, you can begin gaining mana on the 3rd turn, start another +1, and end with the same amount of slots filled, same overall bonus, but an additional 2 turns of +1 times any beast!]

I mean, I'd rather my concubine have D cup breasts and hyper engorged nipples, but its a strictly worse choice then getting clit hood piercing, nipple studs, c cup breasts, and pussy size training]

is there a slight multiplier of turns for later upgrades?
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Re: ?'s - Lactate, Trib+pierce, & concubine xformtion

Postby glantris » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:38 am

I'll re-check lactation once I get up to it, but it's exclusive to... what, nipple rings/engorged?

2: "does needle play affect trib"

Kara consumes 18 droplets of mana essence, filling her completely. 11 droplets overflow from the mana meter.

"Yes. Yes it does." That's a 2-turn trib where the first one hit the edge. Labia-needle + tribbing is, I think, grossly overpowered at the moment. I've had a target's arousal bar stretching off screen at almost double screen length, and a lube tentacle let me trib vry early; 4 in a row damn near filled it.

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ok yeah, lactation has a horror cost of 3. I think that it's basically an action-saving tradeoff; it's close to what two illusions would do, but with 1 action instead of 2. Also, it'll basically freeze the horror buildup for 3 turns after doing it; less clicking, perfect for anal tempting, etc.
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Re: ?'s - Lactate, Trib+pierce, & concubine xformtion

Postby sailorbowser » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:01 am

3) Lastly, is there any point beyond mental satisfaction for doing a more advanced upgrade for a concubine? It takes the same number of slots and the same bonus whether you get four +1's or one +4, and because you get the lower level one's quicker, you get more benefit [if a +1 takes 2 turns, and a +2 takes 4 turns, for the same overall length of time, you can begin gaining mana on the 3rd turn, start another +1, and end with the same amount of slots filled, same overall bonus, but an additional 2 turns of +1 times any beast!]

I mean, I'd rather my concubine have D cup breasts and hyper engorged nipples, but its a strictly worse choice then getting clit hood piercing, nipple studs, c cup breasts, and pussy size training]

is there a slight multiplier of turns for later upgrades?[/quote]

From what I've seen, the turn count listed on the transformation page is the turn total needed to perform the transformation up to that point. The same goes for the required number of upgrade slots. Also, I've noticed that purchasing a transformation in one category causes those in other categories to take longer. So, you would actually be better off going deep into one category, as far as I can tell.
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Re: ?'s - Lactate, Trib+pierce, & concubine xformtion

Postby wanderinglecher » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:20 pm

StrangelyCompelling wrote:3) Lastly, is there any point beyond mental satisfaction for doing a more advanced upgrade for a concubine? It takes the same number of slots and the same bonus whether you get four +1's or one +4, and because you get the lower level one's quicker, you get more benefit [if a +1 takes 2 turns, and a +2 takes 4 turns, for the same overall length of time, you can begin gaining mana on the 3rd turn, start another +1, and end with the same amount of slots filled, same overall bonus, but an additional 2 turns of +1 times any beast!]

I mean, I'd rather my concubine have D cup breasts and hyper engorged nipples, but its a strictly worse choice then getting clit hood piercing, nipple studs, c cup breasts, and pussy size training]

is there a slight multiplier of turns for later upgrades?



Each upgrade, no matter the type, increases the cost of the next one. So there isn't any difference between getting the first upgrade in 4 categories, or upgrading one aspect 4 times. This was in one of the changelogs from a while back, actually.

However, I think you end up in better shape getting one aspect upgraded multiple times, simply because you can do 2 or 3 upgrades per turn once you have a few apprentices.
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